Thursday 27 February 2014

No more circuit nice guys

I saw a post the other day on the Facebook comedy forum that was about the people in comedy who can be a little annoying shall we say, in the comments someone had asked he poster (jestfully if that's a word) to post something nice, the person who posted pointed out that they do post nice comments too but people are naturally more interested in the negatives. This prompted a comment lower in thread suggesting the circuit is unfriendly, it can be same as any industry and I often use these blogs to highlight things that I deem unfriendly, it does not mean I'm right I can easily misinterpret things same as anyone else can, one thing I don't think I do misinterpret is who the comedy nice guys are.

You see on the whole it's a very friendly and pleasant industry (wether or not comedy is an industry is another debate) and I as a new act have met some really great people. There have been times say in a green room where I have been ignored or the acts that all knew each other made no effort to talk to the new guy, or when I have travelled 4 hours to a gig where the local acts have influenced the running order so they go on early to get home and I don't get back til 4am, these all things that I would say are unfriendly however, I'm sure no one means to be a dick (well some do and that's because they are dicks) and actually if they realised they were coming across badly they would be horrified, in fact I may even have done something like this myself although I always try say hello to every act and give the really new ones time of day as I remember how relaxed I felt at my 1st gig when Daniel Kennedy made that same gesture for me.

The point of this blog post is to thank the comedy nice guys (I use the word guys on a non gender specific way sorry if that makes no sense)
So back to my 1st ever gig, It was March 5th 2012 at Mr Bens gong show, I'm 32 but my insecurities and shyness make me seem like a teenager meekly and nervously shuffling my way to the spare seat where the other acts are sat. No one spoke to me, that was until Dan Kennedy spotted me and introduced himself and just made a little effort to relax me, it was a huge gesture to me and as I have gone on to gig with Dan several times since I can confirm typical of his character. He is one of the good guys.

Another real comedy good guy from my Mr Bens visits is Sully O Sullivan, Sully was the regular MC and must have seen some utter shite on that stage yet always made every effort to be friendly with the acts especially the regular ones, Sully has every right to think himself as above people, he is a superb comedian it doesn't require me to say it, yet unlike one or two other talented acts he views everyone on the same level and is incredibly easy to talk to even for a shy person who finds it difficult to consider anyone would give a shit what he has to say !

While on the subject of nice guy pro acts Pat Monahan has time for everyone, Naz Osmanaglu (I hope that is spelt correctly) similarly makes time for everyone and Jason Simmonds took time out to come pick me up from Clapham station once for a horrible gig in Barking, he then dropped me back at Victoria bus station and as he was paid and I wasn't he refused to take fuel money all while offering me encouragement and advice. Other pro acts that have to be up there are Janice Connelly who some may remember as Holy Mary from Phoenix nights or may know better as Barbra Nice, and she is more than nice, she is lovely. I would also like to mention  Karen Bayley, Steve Jameson aka Sol Bernstien, Kai Humphries, Damion Larkin, Mark Felgate and Micky Sharma all who I have gigged with just once and left an impression on me of how nice they are, the sort of people who just ooze friendly, approachable niceness!

Acts that I see regularly who are alway full of good words and seldom complain are Ross Brierely, Dave Rivers, Jo D'Arcy and Pete Foulkes. These are just nice people and it's a pleasure knowing them, there are zillions of others but these guys are just very easy to get on with and are often selfless.

There are promoters too who I find can be just as easy to get on with, Andrew and Paul nightingale at Can Comedy have always been really great guys, Jools at last laugh not only very nice guy but also full of genuine useful and constructive advice. J Musa and Steve Starkie at world of
Comedy also really really friendly guys and Paul Haslam and Mike Taylor also in my experience are good guys. I think the nicest guy of all and a but of an unsung hero is Kenny Mills at Tyldsley, an absolute gent and I doubt anyone had a bad word to say about the guy.

There are loads of others and too many for me to mention including people who don't perform or book gigs such as Mick the Photo Guy Appy Man! So every time you have an experience with someone being a dick or see a whiny, sarcastic or twatty social media post just remember there are 500 really nice people for that one nob! Oh and before you kick off with said nob or dismiss them as a waste of time (as I have in the past) try see things from their point of view, everyone who is being a bit of a dick is doing so for a reason, the reason may be that they are frustrated, insecure, uneducated or just having a bad day, so before rising to it, rise above it and try get on with everyone if you can because it's much more fun that way :)

Right I'm off to Troll on twitter, thanks for reading, spread some happy :)

Monday 24 February 2014

Terrible, 0 stars

I'm a bit late getting this blog out as I have my bi weekly on a Wednesday target. This is because I was waiting for a review to come in and decided to blog about comedy reviews.

The subject of reviews came up a few times last week just coincidentally as each time it was with different acts coming from a different viewpoint. I don't see reviews as a particularly important part of comedy unless it is from a critic who knows their stuff, but even then can a review ever really be anything more than an opinion of one person. I guess a lot depends on how a review is written and what the reviewer sees in the performance from an artistic point of view as much as the consideration as to wether the audience laughed. Steve Bennett reviews a lot of comedy and he is one example of a person who I consider hard to please. I don't see that as a negative thing, Steve must have seen every knob joke, every racist granny joke, every dyslexia joke (I have one, I hate it but people laugh) every type of comedy in some way or another will have been performed in front of someone like Steve and so with good reason he is harder to please. Being harder to please does not mean he is necessarily correct as he would have to review from his own point of view as much as one of a man who can see the skill in a comedians performance.
Steve recently reviewed Harriet Dyer, Harriet is easily one of my favourite acts, I have only seen her twice but I bloody love what I saw. The review was favourable and spot on, this is a review Harriet deserved and can be proud to show off because Steve knows his stuff. I know that Dave Twentyman was referred to as merely a club comic (or words to that affect, I have not seen the actual review)
Dave is another of those acts I just can't praise enough. He doesn't need my praise because audiences all over the country laugh hard and loud at his incredible work, yet my understanding is that his reviews by Steve Bennett have been less favourable (I must stress this is based on a post about snobbery in comedy, an interesting read, and not from me having seen a review of Dave Twentyman by Steve Bennett) disclaimer aside I understand that Steve Bennett may view Dave Twentyman differently and there is nothing wrong with that as any reviewer is entitled to their viewpoint but that does not make the review correct. If you have not seen Dave at work go now and make that right he is a joy to behold.
The concern I have with less than favourable reviews is that they may hinder progress, someone like DT may find it difficult to move into corporate work for example based on a review.
This is not really fair as acts can be considerably better (or in fact worse) than a review suggests.

At my level, well I say my level, I don't really know what my level is, I am now picking up weekly paid work yet still trying to impress a lot of promoters, I am closing more and more and MCing more and more yet if still say I'm an open spot, one of those more experienced but still easy to exploit open spots!
But anyway at my level reviews tend to mean much much less, the reviewer is usually a blogger or a student who has little experience of the world of stand up. Now this doesn't mean their opinion is not valid, anyone's opinion is valid, well anyone but racists, ok racists and homophobes. Oh and sexists, xenophobes and fascists.... Basically if your a phobe or an ist, or a politician you are totally valid in your opinion, the difference only is you may miss the art or the point of an act you review or give someone a great review who was performing tired themes (seriously people stop making Fritzl jokes.... No it's not too soon)

The thing is I wouldn't want reviewers to stop as how would you even begin to get experience, Steve Bennett was wet behind the ears at one point. I just think acts that have brilliant reviews should enjoy them and take all the positives and confidence from them yet those who had bad ones should not allow it to cause them any distress or loss of confidence as it is the view of one person who may be wrong.

I think if you are a reviewer you should continue to be honest, yes I just said you may be wrong but now I'm going to contradict myself and say you can never be wrong as it is your point of view (unless you're an Ist or a phobe, you're definitely wrong if you're one of them)

It's this contradiction that is why I think acts should not take any kind of review good or bad too seriously, if you get a string of great reviews that is of course a good sign and of course the flip side is if you constantly get bad ones you may need to look at your set then, certainly if the reviews say your are an ist or a phobe! But I'm nearly 400 gigs in now and I've only had 3 reviews so how likely it is that you will get a long list of bad or good ones I'm not sure.

I feel as I come to the end of this blog like I'm taking away the need for reviewers of any experience level, I'm not, please keep going to comedy and giving us needy attention starved stage junkies a sense of what you thought, but please try spell the acts name right. In fact do something I never do, use correct grammar and proof read for typos too then it makes us feel that you really care if if the review says "this guy should quit comedy immediately then remove his tongue so no one else ever has to hear the crap that falls head 1st out of his halitosis laden mouth, then to be certain he does not try emulate lost voice guy or the boy with tape on his face he should tie rocks to his feet and go swimming, in a pyroclastic river, I will award him as many stars as there are in the celeb jungle thing.... Zero"

I think really all I'm saying is reviews are nice to read and always will be a part of comedy, but as an act you should not really worry about them because all acts just want to make their audience laugh and some are really good at it others need a little more work.

Before I go (I have a review to write) I mentioned I have been reviewed 3 times, 2 lovely and one..... Well I don't really know what to make of it, the reviewer seemed to miss my point about homophobia suggesting my set was about religion and seems to suggest my apparent on stage confidence is not merited! Oh and jeans, shirt and jumper with flatcap is an unusual look, ha I guess it is but it's my look and was before I started comedy. I will class this as a bad review mainly due to the closing comment but it was 4 stars from 5 so not all bad, feel free to have a read and note my new name :)
The link is here but for some reason invisible, clic in this general area! http://altlinc.co.uk/2014/02/18/comedy-zing/#more-318

I will close now by saying, I am not as really as needy as I made out.... Erm can you all follow me on twitter so it looks like I have fans? @jimbayes thanks, I'm not needy though really I'm not.

Tuesday 4 February 2014

Creative idiot

I seem to have started the year with moans and groans about my experiences in comedy, it was not my intention to grumble, the wankers of the industry are so few that allowing them to bother me is more my own insecurities showing than it is their twattiness!!
I do have one gripe this fortnight though, its just an issue with a promoter... why charge £6 in, sell 80 tickets totaling £480 then only pay £30 for a headliner and 2 other acts £20 meaning over £400 profit?? think about it and pay a little more, maybe even book a more experienced act as the budget that you have created yourself could make for an awesome night!

Anyway lets stay away from my gripes and talk about how much i'm enjoying this year so far. Comedy has always been something I have been a fan of but it was never something I thought I could do, I watch the young comedians I gig with and see so many wonderful talented people, people who have such wonderful creative minds and can twist the world to tell a story that 'normal' people would miss. I am in awe of some of these comedians, how they can make a room sit up and listen, bring an audience to life. I don't view myself as one of them, I view myself as an outsider trying to break this comedy lark, trying to learn every thing I can from those of differing experiences.

I like to see how the new acts doing their 1st or 4th or 8th gig try piece things together much like I did when I was at that many gigs. If any of them ask me for assistance finding gigs I'm more than happy to help, why not. never know when I may need their help either.

I love watching experienced acts make this art from look easy and if I can pick their brains for tips, advice or criticism of what i'm trying to do. Some respond some don't its all fine. I just feel the same awe of all acts that create something wonderful and bring laughter. I don't mind if the laughter comes from a place where there is no life lesson as much as it fascinates me when someones comedy makes me think differently. I like comedy that does not make victims of anyone, comedy that can be from the heart of the person delivering it and we are laughing with them and not at someone. It's hard for me to view myself as anything other than a slobering northern idiot who wants to be funny on purpose because of all those times being funny by accident made me want to self harm!

For me the writing process is not particularly skilled (no shit, Jim... you mean that flat cap joke was created by a formula that no one else could come up with????)
I'm trying to write in a way that no one else could write, comedy that comes from things in my life and no one can say they had that exact experience but everyone can relate to what I'm saying. I want to kind of work my audiences mate persona too with a nice mix of accessible jokes and references to everyday things.

Now I start with an idea, I write the narrative of the idea without any intentional jokes, then I go over it and try place as many jokes and word plays and side stories or afterthoughts as possible. I may take the comedy rule book out and go looking for things I can call back to or turn into rule of 3, maybe anthropomorphism can pop in somewhere or stick in some misdirection... it all stinks of schooled comedy but for every 20 mins I write only 2 mins are any good and then the writing transfers to the stage where things can be tweaked, twisted or changed in order to suit.
i sometimes write in the voice of comedians I like then alter what I have written to my voice. The best example of this was when I wrote a while back about buying a sofa, this was written in Rhod Gilbert voice and altered to suit me, you can still see the influence from the Welsh mirth maker but it also is very much Jim Bayes. I also write with my Yorkshire accent in mind, the plan to bring together some stereotypes of being a Yorkshireman from a small place like Otley with some normality that anyone with any accent could do.

I have challenged myself to write an hour show, I took this to Hull comedy festival in November and realised it was not even nearly good enough, I have gone back to the drawing board and have re written parts and added bits too making this hopefully a much tighter show for when I present it again on Feb 7th and 8th for James Hardy.  

I want to have a solid 20 after all of this is done and maybe even a strong 30 mins so I can pick up more and more paid work because as nice as it is to be getting the paid work I am I still wish to be more bookable. My solid 3 that I currently have is a good foundation!!!

I have been careful to write into my opening few minutes several types of joke so I can try gauge an audience. I open with a cheesy joke, have a slightly filthy one, a visual joke, a wordplay and a self depreciation one with a new joke that requires a bit of thought too. I have found starting this way helpful for me to see who laughs at what. I also have had to really work on talking slower and enunciating better.

I feel relaxed now almost every time I go up on stage, not that I am convinced I will do well but that if I don't its not something I should worry about, I will be at 2 years since I started next month so I am still very new and don't need to rush (hearing that Norman Lovett, Frank Skinner and John Bishop were all 32 when they started, same as I makes me feel comfortable too even if comedy has become much more difficult)

Writing with others is the best way to write I find too, the things you miss that others can give you are sometimes so obvious you become blind to them. a group of around 3 works best and just chatting with a Dictaphone is the most fluid way but everyone is different.
I mean I say all this but to be fair I write loads and then just look at it and decide its all shite, set fire to my pen, feed the paper to a dog and when the dog shits it out it is somehow better!!!

I have been enjoying the creative process this month as much as the performing side in reality, and this is why I know I would love to do this as a full time job some day. Another reason I want to do this as a job are nights like last Saturday at Pazaz in Hull. I have stopped using this blog to talk about individual gigs but Saturday needs special mention after a great week of gigs including opening Thursday in Manc, doubling Friday in York at 2 lovely gigs then having a nice gig in Winsford Sunday. Saturday was electric though, I was MCing and it was a strong line up in the new act sense. I started out a touch ropey myself but Nick Clarke (remember fingerless nick from earlier blogs) opened strongly with new material too. The night just got better and better as each act came up and knocked it out the park and my rapport with the audience grew to the point I felt I could have said anything and they would have laughed, they were really in the mood to have a good time!! I also enjoyed watching everyone else as Theresa Farlow, Martin Smith, Andy Woolston, Maxine Jones, Frasco Fools and headliner Steve Rimmer each brought the house down in particular the fools with one woman nearly passing out from laughing so much at them! Billy Lowther captured this night in photo's too. It was just such great fun being involved in this I wish all gigs were this much fun.

I have a busy 2 weeks coming up, I may have plenty more on the creative side of things to discuss next time, or maybe I will be back to being a winy little boy!! either way I am looking forward to things more than ever